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2015:groups:sm:qg [2015/06/04 14:26]
jesse.thaler [Quark/Gluon Enrichment Studies]
2015:groups:sm:qg [2015/06/04 16:40]
jesse.thaler [Key Question]
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 a.k.a. Hunting the White Whale of Jet Substructure a.k.a. Hunting the White Whale of Jet Substructure
  
 +  * Andy Buckley
   * Jon Butterworth   * Jon Butterworth
 +  * Mario Campanelli
   * Marat Freytsis   * Marat Freytsis
   * Peter Loch <​loch@physics.arizona.edu>​   * Peter Loch <​loch@physics.arizona.edu>​
   * Deepak Kar   * Deepak Kar
   * Andrzej Siodmok   * Andrzej Siodmok
-  * Peter Skands+  * Peter Skands ​<​peter.skands@monash.edu>​
   * Dave Soper   * Dave Soper
   * Gregory Soyez   * Gregory Soyez
 +  * Frank Tackmann
   * Jesse Thaler <​jthaler@mit.edu>​   * Jesse Thaler <​jthaler@mit.edu>​
-  * who did I forget? +  * ...
- +
-  * Remotely: ​ Andy Buckley, Mario Campanelli+
  
 Link to GitHub repository: ​ https://​github.com/​gsoyez/​lh2015-qg Link to GitHub repository: ​ https://​github.com/​gsoyez/​lh2015-qg
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   * Do we understand FSR modeling by workhorse parton showers?   * Do we understand FSR modeling by workhorse parton showers?
 +  * Start with the clean case of e+e-, move to pp later.
  
 ==== Basic Plan === ==== Basic Plan ===
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   * Above study at hadron colliders, using dijets, W/Z/gamma + j, and maybe t tbar samples   * Above study at hadron colliders, using dijets, W/Z/gamma + j, and maybe t tbar samples
  
-===== Original ​Notes from Gregory ​=====+===== Preliminary plots for meeting on Thursday ===== 
 + 
 +{{:​2015:​groups:​sm:​ga_10_20.pdf|}} 
 +{{:​2015:​groups:​sm:​ga_10_10.pdf|}} 
 +{{:​2015:​groups:​sm:​ga_10_05.pdf|}} 
 +{{:​2015:​groups:​sm:​ga_00_00.pdf|}} 
 +{{:​2015:​groups:​sm:​ga_20_00.pdf|}} 
 + 
 +===== Notes from Tuesday Meeting ​=====
  
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      ​above,​ +PU, VBF      ​above,​ +PU, VBF
      ​[Peter L.]      ​[Peter L.]
 +
 +</​code>​
 +
 +===== Notes from Thursday Meeting =====
 +
 +<​code>​
 +
 +
 +Meeting in Les-Houches
 +
 +
 +Presentation of the wiki notes: list of contributors,​ ...
 +
 +Presentation of the status of the software: ​
 +  start w e+e- and do pp later
 +  Rivet analysis in place which computes from a HepMC event sample the various generalised angularity distributions
 +
 +Reminder: what we mean by a q and a g is e+e-\to qq and e+e-\to gg
 +  If we want to do something more refined:
 +    - at LO we can unambiguously sum flavours in hemispheres defined by thrust
 +    - at NLO we can unambiguously sum flavours in hemispheres defined by thrust
 +      we get a quark and a small gluon fraction
 +    - at NNLO things are more complicated. We can use a flavoured
 +      algorithm (BSZ) to define the flavour of each hemisphere
 +    - for pp collisions, we should use a flavoured algorithm to
 +      determine flavour, and then find a way (e.g. using ghosts) to
 +      run anti-kt jets. This would deserve a topic per se (a LH accord)?
 +   
 +    - Question: can we match to the Born and find an operatiroal
 +      definition up t power corrections?​
 +      Use case: VBF, two jets with a third jet veto. q/g well-defined
 +                in the exclusive limit
 +
 +Questions to look into:
 + - is the discrimination power (e.g. for width) coming from the hadronisation regime?
 + - plotting in log binninb?
 + - pythia v. herwig important to test string v. cluster hadronisation
 + - isolate hadronisation regime. Study the scaling in different bins
 +   of one angularity (e.g. thrust). Take a hadronisation region
 +   ​(T\propto LQCD/Q) and a shower region (T~0.1-0.2) plus optionally a
 +   "​hard jet region"​ (T >~ 0.25)
 + - does mathing help?
 + - jet radius dependence (edit analysis and recompile)
 + - analytic predictions?​
 +    for thrust: ee->qq known at N^3LL' + N^3LO
 +                ee->qq known at N^2LL' + N^2LO
 +        ang(bkappa=1):​ NLL'
 + - question of the universality/​process dependence of the conclusions?​
 +   ​Related to whether the power comes from the core or the periphery?
 +
 + - process to consider: ​
 +     ​mu+mu- -> spin1 -> qq  take photons
 +     ​mu+mu- -> spin0 -> gg  take Higgs
 +   for tests of universality
 +     ​mu+mu- -> spin0 -> qq
 +
 + - Energies Q=sqrt = 50, 200, 800 GeV
 +   ​jetdef:​ ee-antikt [genkt, p=-1], WTA_modp recomb scheme
 +   ​radii:​ 0.3, 0.6, 0.9
 +
 + - add thrust from thrust hemispheres for analytic purpose
 +
 + - add multiplicity (event-wide) in bins of thrust:
 +     T < 5 GeV/sqrt(S)
 +     5 GeV/sqrt(S) < T < 0.1
 +     0.1 < T < 0.2
 +     0.2 < T
 +     
  
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