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2015:groups:sm:qg [2015/06/04 17:11]
jesse.thaler [Questions]
2015:groups:sm:qg [2015/07/14 08:27]
philippe.gras Added instructions for CERN account
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 a.k.a. Hunting the White Whale of Jet Substructure a.k.a. Hunting the White Whale of Jet Substructure
  
-  ​* Andy Buckley +//If you are interested in contributing please subscribe to the [[https://​e-groups.cern.ch/​e-groups/​EgroupsSearch.do?​searchValue=houches-2015-topics-sm-qg-separation|mailing list]]. You will be asked to log in with your CERN account. If you don't have a CERN account, please fill [[https://​account.cern.ch/​account/​Externals/​RegisterAccount.aspx|this form]] to create a lightweight account.//​ 
-  * Jon Butterworth + 
-  * Mario Campanelli +  ​* Andy Buckley ​<​andy.buckley@cern.ch>​ 
-  * Marat Freytsis+  * Jon Butterworth ​<​J.Butterworth@ucl.ac.uk>​ 
 +  * Mario Campanelli ​<​mario.campanelli@cern.ch>​ 
 +  * Marat Freytsis ​<​freytsis@physics.harvard.edu>​
   * Peter Loch <​loch@physics.arizona.edu>​   * Peter Loch <​loch@physics.arizona.edu>​
-  * Deepak Kar +  ​* Philippe Gras <​philippe.gras@cern.ch>​ 
-  * Andrzej Siodmok+  * Sam Bein <​samuel.bein@gmail.com>​ 
 +  ​* Deepak Kar <​deepak.kar@cern.ch>​ 
 +  * Simon Plätzer <​simon.plaetzer@desy.de>​ 
 +  * Andrzej Siodmok ​<​andrzej@cern.ch>​
   * Peter Skands <​peter.skands@monash.edu>​   * Peter Skands <​peter.skands@monash.edu>​
-  * Dave Soper +  * Dave Soper <​soper@uoregon.edu>​ 
-  * Gregory Soyez +  * Gregory Soyez <​Gregory.Soyez@cern.ch>​ 
-  * Frank Tackmann+  * Frank Tackmann ​<​frank.tackmann@desy.de>​
   * Jesse Thaler <​jthaler@mit.edu>​   * Jesse Thaler <​jthaler@mit.edu>​
   * ...   * ...
  
 Link to GitHub repository: ​ https://​github.com/​gsoyez/​lh2015-qg Link to GitHub repository: ​ https://​github.com/​gsoyez/​lh2015-qg
 +===== Slides from Saturday =====
 +
 +  * {{:​2015:​groups:​sm:​qcdaware.pdf|Andy'​s upcoming paper on QCDAware jet algorithms}}
 +
 +  * {{|Peter'​s VBF Slides}}
 +
 +  * {{:​2015:​groups:​sm:​jetmass_ft.pdf|Frank'​s Hadronization Power Correction Slides}}
 +
 +  * {{:​2015:​groups:​sm:​jthaler_lh_saturday.pdf|Summary of MC Studies}}
 +
 +  * Quark as an noun vs. quark as an adjective (pseudo-quarks? ​ uarks? ​ quarky jets?)
 +
 +===== Plan of attack for Wednesday Les Houches Presentation =====
 +
 +  * Write our quark/gluon manifesto/​history.
 +  * Catalog quark gluon discriminants and performance measures
 +  * e+e- -> u uubar , gg
 +  * Baseline: ​ Q = 200 GeV, R = 0.6, all Monte Carlo programs optimal
 +  * Quark distribution,​ gluon distribution,​ separation, integrated separation
 +  * Pythia variations: ​ noME, nogqq
 +  * Herwig variations: ​ ...
 +  * Sherpa variations: ​ ...
 +  * Vincia variations: ​ noME
 +  * Q = 50, 100, 200, 400, 800 GeV (everything else baseline)
 +  * R = 0.2, 0.4, 0.6, 0.8, 1.0 (everything else baseline)
 +  * delta alphas / alphas = -0.2, -0.1, 0.0, +0.1, +0.2 (everything else baseline) ​
 +
 ===== Preliminaries ===== ===== Preliminaries =====
  
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   * Rivet analysis in place which computes from a HepMC event sample the various generalised angularity distributions.   * Rivet analysis in place which computes from a HepMC event sample the various generalised angularity distributions.
 +  * Processes to consider:
 +    * mu+mu- -> spin1 -> q qbar  take photons
 +    * mu+mu- -> spin0 -> g g  take Higgs
 +    * for tests of universality: ​ mu+mu- -> spin0 -> q qbar
 +  * Energies
 +    * Q=sqrt{s} = 50, 200, 800 GeV
 +    * Optionally: ​ Q = 100, 400 GeV
 +  * Jet definition:
 +    * ee-antikt [genkt, p=-1], WTA_modp recomb scheme
 +    * R = 0.3, 0.6, 0.9
 +  * Add thrust from thrust hemispheres for anticipated analytic comparisons
 +  * Add multiplicity (event-wide) in bins of thrust:
 +     * T < 5 GeV/sqrt(S)
 +     * 5 GeV/sqrt(S) < T < 0.1
 +     * 0.1 < T < 0.2
 +     * 0.2 < T
 +
 +==== Preliminary plots for meeting on Thursday ====
 +
 +{{:​2015:​groups:​sm:​ga_10_20.pdf|}}
 +{{:​2015:​groups:​sm:​ga_10_10.pdf|}}
 +{{:​2015:​groups:​sm:​ga_10_05.pdf|}}
 +{{:​2015:​groups:​sm:​ga_00_00.pdf|}}
 +{{:​2015:​groups:​sm:​ga_20_00.pdf|}}
  
 ==== Questions ==== ==== Questions ====
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   * Universality/​process dependence of conclusions?​   * Universality/​process dependence of conclusions?​
     * Related to whether the discrimination power comes from the core or the periphery of jet.     * Related to whether the discrimination power comes from the core or the periphery of jet.
 +
 ===== Next Les Houches Study (for after LH) ===== ===== Next Les Houches Study (for after LH) =====
  
   * Above study at hadron colliders, using dijets, W/Z/gamma + j, and maybe t tbar samples   * Above study at hadron colliders, using dijets, W/Z/gamma + j, and maybe t tbar samples
  
-===== Preliminary plots for meeting on Thursday ​=====+===== Analytic Les Houches Study? ​=====
  
-{{:2015:​groups:​sm:​ga_10_20.pdf|}} +  * Analytic predictions known/​available/​straightforward for
-{{:2015:​groups:​sm:​ga_10_10.pdf|}} +    * Quark thrustN^3LL' + N^3L0 
-{{:2015:​groups:​sm:​ga_10_05.pdf|}} +    * Gluon thrustN^2LL' + N^2L0 
-{{:2015:​groups:​sm:​ga_00_00.pdf|}} +    * ang (kappa =1) ​NLL'​ 
-{{:​2015:​groups:​sm:​ga_20_00.pdf|}}+  * Can we do useful quark/gluon study from analytic results?
  
 ===== Notes from Tuesday Meeting ===== ===== Notes from Tuesday Meeting =====
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 +
 +===== Notes for Jesse for Preparing Summary Talk =====
 +
 +  * Quark is more of an adjective than a noun.
 +  * Pseudo-quark? ​ (That language doesn'​t go over very well.)
 +
 +==== What is a Quark Jet? ====
 +
 +(From ill-defined to well-defined)
 +
 +  * A quark parton
 +  * A Born-level quark parton
 +  * The initiating quark parton in a final state shower
 +  * An eikonal line with baryon number 1/3 and carrying triplet color charge
 +  * A quark operator that appears in a hard matrix element in the context of a factorization theorem.
 +  * A parton-level jet object that has been tagged as a quark using a soft-safe flavored jet algorithm (automatically collinear safe if you sum constituent flavors).
 +  * A phase space region (as defined by an unambiguous hadronic fiducial cross section measurement) that yields an enriched sample of quarks (as interpreted by some suitable, though fundamentally ambiguous, criterion).  ​
 +  ​
 +(Sometimes people think we care about the top of the list while we are really focused entirely on the bottom.)
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