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2019:groups:tools:mcvariation2 [2019/06/16 17:14]
emanuele.re
2019:groups:tools:mcvariation2 [2019/06/18 15:58]
helen.brooks
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   * consider 1 case study, pick a selection of 2-3 observables,​ perform a selection of MC variations   * consider 1 case study, pick a selection of 2-3 observables,​ perform a selection of MC variations
   * for a given setup X=(FO/​matching/​merging accuracy, PS model, NP model), produce envelope   * for a given setup X=(FO/​matching/​merging accuracy, PS model, NP model), produce envelope
-  * check if the envelope from setup X behaves as expected or not: for instance, it might happen that even in a region that should be dominated by "hard physics",​ one has a residual dependence upon the NP model, or a too-large dependence upon some shower ​setting, if the variations are not done properly.+  * check if the envelope from setup X behaves as expected or not: for instance, it might happen that even in a region that should be dominated by "hard physics",​ one has a residual dependence upon the NP model, or a too-large dependence upon some shower ​parameter, if the variations are not done properly, or if there'​s an inconsistency.
   * check if envelopes from setup X_i and setup X_j overlap at least partially. If there are very large differences,​ is this expected (given the kinematic region probed and the perturbative/​non-perturbative content of the setups)?   * check if envelopes from setup X_i and setup X_j overlap at least partially. If there are very large differences,​ is this expected (given the kinematic region probed and the perturbative/​non-perturbative content of the setups)?
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 +** Disclaimer **
 +
 +  * to some extent, such a study could be considered a continuation of what can be found in chapter V.1 of  https://​arxiv.org/​abs/​1605.04692 . Nowadays we might aim for having higher accuracy in the ME part, and possibly more developed and more efficient frameworks for "​PS-reweighting"​.
 +
  
 ** Possible test cases: ** ** Possible test cases: **
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   * pth in gluon-fusion (pros: directly related to STXS bins)   * pth in gluon-fusion (pros: directly related to STXS bins)
   * Drell-Yan (pros: there'​s data available)   * Drell-Yan (pros: there'​s data available)
-  * ttbar (pros: atlas and cms have already several studies performed with identical or very similar ​settings)+  * ttbar (pros: atlas and cms have already several studies performed with identical or very similar ​setups) 
 + 
 + 
 +** Meeting on Monday ** 
 + 
 +  * agree first on the utility/​need (from the EXP side) of such a study, and then on the best test case 
 +  * ->​Check 
 + 
 +** Decisions **
  
 +  * Agreement reached points towards ttbar as first choice. Probably as a second choice: gg->H
  
-** Next steps (meeting on Monday) ** 
  
-  ​agree on a test case+** Next steps **
  
 +  * Work out a strategy (slack?)
  
-** Interested participants:​ **+** Interested participants ​(please add your name): ** 
 +   
 +  * ttbar   
 +    * Emanuele Re 
 +    * Helen Brooks (can provide Vincia+POWHEG,​ maybe Pythia)
  
 +** ========= **
 +  * Carlo Pandini
 +  * Simone Amoroso
 +  * Helen Brooks
 +  * Josh McFayden
 +  * Philippe Gras
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